I shall check out Bologna asap. It would be possible to live-stream the wedding to her and she would probably enjoy it more. You have to do what’s right for you and your mom, but if it’s an unpleasant experience for her it will be unpleasant for everyone. Michelle, kudos for trying to do the very best for all involved. Much easier to just hop back in the car when she's had enough instead of having to get back to the train station, hope there's a train when you need it, etc. Keep in mind that those exclusions can be applied post-facto, during claims review. I wish you well. Worst thing you can do is take them out of their familiar surroundings. Do you have other relatives who might be able to step up and help? LizzyL, you have my admiration and sympathies as well. 1- What is the care situation presently? I would the add that the first time I took a vacation while being my dad’s caregiver, it was an international trip. Thank you for posting this very important question. The counsel from those above to think long and hard about taking mom along, as gently well-intended as I'm sure the effort would be, is one I'll echo. She wound up with injuries from that one, but luckily a couple of hours later I was meeting them on arrival, got her sorted and drove them back to their home in the Cotswolds. Yes , she will deteriorate at a faster pace if we take her .vs. Oh yes, My husband of 30 years, our Adult son ,myself and 80 yrs old mom with mid-stage alzheimer's are travel to Albania the month of May 2021 for younger sons wedding in Albania. . I am a retired nurse, whom has been Mom full -time Caregiver since the beginning of this awful journey,7 years ago. I have pretty thick skin so can tolerate and ignore a lot of comments on various forums. She did not know she was on an airplane. Her safety and well being are more important than attending a wedding in Italy. As for where you can have your mom stay, check with the local Skilled Nursing Facility, Assisted Living or Adult Family Homes. Two weeks later, on the return trip she fell on her face getting on, not seeing the step up. “I believe it was meant as a sincere form of flattery. The devil's always in the details.). & above all resources known for caregivers traveling with disablities adults. Finally, I learned not to discuss travel in advance with my own mother because it provoked anxiety. spam from nop rial with that horrible nasty link has been reported for zapping. Hopefully by next May travel will be feasible and you have a wonderful trip. There is no predicting when this will happen. I share all this just to make the point to you that trains can be tricky for people like my mother who had been on and off public transport all her life. That would be a noble motivation. I kept having to reassure her all was ok, but she struggled getting any sleep or peace of mind. My closing question to all : should I close the forum ? Are you planning to rent apartments or homes? I hope you don't delete it though - it's an interesting discussion. I don't see one bit of medical advise in the responses. We are a pretty tight little family here - even if like families we sometimes bicker, but from the clash of differing opinions the spark of truth shall come - and we do look out for each other. I spoke with her recently, and she said that now a hospital stay has been recognized as a cause for PTSD (for anyone, not just for a dementia patient). As others have said, be sure you have some health and evacuation insurance. Sit tight I am composing a 4 pages response addressing all issues raised . It's so disorienting for them." :O(. The towns you list and Lake Garda are pretty close together so that could work. Capesule wardrobe, nightlights, travel insurance , transportation etc... were worth far more than all the advice specialists or experts in the field could even begin to know about . Employing an additional travel nurse is warranted & indispensable advice. My father was adamant that he didn't want help from anyone (but family) but once we found a caregiver he liked, he looked forward to her arrival and I was able to leave the house to go to work and run errands. Even my mom who didn’t have Alzheimer’s would have found a trip of the length you describe to be difficult. By New Year's, he was bedridden and totally incontinent. Whenever my mother-in-law would spend a morning at the doctor or out shopping, my step-father-in-law would get agitated. Some don’t ever stop hallucinating once it begins. My cousins rented a large house for a week that was big enough for everyone. His weekly public radio program, Travel with Rick Steves first aired in 2005. As mom had many tumbles going up or down stairs ; prior to knee replacement surgery. I LOVE Italian rail travel but, you might take a glance at what the ever-reliable "The Man in Seat 61" has to say about Albania? Please don't delete the thread as it'll no doubt be useful background for someone else in the same situation, OK? My family moved my mom from the US to Ecuador this winter, in an effort to get her good, affordable care. I am not sure where you are traveling from, but the first few days should be scheduled for her acclimation and resting up from jet lag. Best wishes to you and your mom. You can FaceTime daily. The thing is - and the elephant in the room, mcassidy29 - is that your plan is based on mother's condition TODAY. You've gotten some great advice. These events led to a trip to the neurologist and her Alzheimer's diagnosis. I'm watching them with an elderly friend who has dementia--they give him pleasure remembering living and traveling in Europe. Also , coupled with the question I ask myself. I will not regale you with my last 15 months but suffice it to say no two months were the same, it was all downhill, and at any time you could have asked me "what do you expect things to be like in three months" and if you recorded my answers they would have been laughably naive and show a total failure of imagination to predict how bad things would be in three months let alone nine. I need to look into hiring a driver to & from the airport. It might be a good idea to research the insurance aspect and keep in mind that insurance plans can change on a regular basis, these days. I would never in a million years take an elderly lady with Alzheimer’s on a big overseas trip. I'm so sorry; Alzheimer's is such an insidious disease! I agree it has valuable information and a lot of good discussion. If you are striving for a slow pace, you can easily stay in Bologna for a few weeks with day trips to a number of interesting towns and cities. Rick Steves tours provide the best value for your trip to Europe. Continue to look into the travel insurance aspect. Rebecca. But,more importantly I take it as a compliment directed towards the Commenters on this Forum. What does your mother's doctor/physician have to say about this trip for her? Rebecca, My apologizes for taking a week to respond back. My mother had spent some of her happiest years in Paris and it always brought a smile to her face nearly to the end. Michelle, S J, i agree with you and everyone else that advises against. We realized that travel insurance restrictions might make international travel impractical long before an older person became unable to travel. They certainly have in the past six months. My father, who suffered from dementia, lived with us for two years before he died and, sadly, I would agree that taking such a trip with him would have been impossible. -You'll want to do the packing for her. Still , we must stay vigil in realizing their depth perspective is also altered. It also sounds as if she hasn't recently been exposed to trips with changes of surroundings and overnight stays in strange beds? Please do not reply to violations of our Community Guidelines. If she stays home without us she MAY deteriorate . Michelle, Pam and Cognac, FYI, my AARP supplemental F plan does not cover evac. Laurie B.- Yes I do have Chase Shapphire Blue but I must reread their fine print. i.e., what is her condition likely to be a year from now? By May 2021 I doubt your mom will be able to travel and even if she seemed OK, I think a trip like this would be incredibly stressful on her. Is she in a care facility or cared for at home by a professional caregiver? It will certainly be more costly than a train, but the flexibility has considerable value in that you'll be able to see multiple small towns in one day, which will likely be impossible via public transportation. By then my father was suffering from mild dementia (Alzheimers). However this trip works out, I wish you the best, and congratulations on your son’s wedding. I was, so I knew I could manage Mom on a car trip although for the last one I rented a wheelchair. But that is a very long trip. My mom and I were both surprised by the age limits in the travel insurance market. Europe - Re: Rick Steves - For an upcoming trip to Europe, I borrowed quite a few tapes from the local library. : Where will she be physically the safest ? I’m sorry for your mother and what she is going through. As a side note, have you done any homework on train travel in Albania? Health crises happen. Perhaps she is thinking over all the responses. If on Lake Garda, we enjoyed Saló on the SW side, recommended by Italian friends. I miss both of my parents - dad died in 2005 and mom 7 years later. Your survival tech. Whatever you decide to do, please come back to the forum someday and tell us about your trip. It would be an invaluable addition to any travel forum. I cannot thank you enough for sharing your heart wrenching story in which readers could easily feel the love you have for them. Why ? But in a revealing interview, the travel guru shares his daring views on Iran and … Scott Conant is a celebrity chef and restaurateur, and often appears as a guest … In 1999, Dad wanted to visit us in California and also spend a week in San Francisco, My parents were very mobile, but my Mom had episodes at that time where she didn’t know where she was, or who the people around her were. Enjoy all the time you have with your mother. Rick Steves and his staff do a great job! This was my experience with my then 81 year old Mom... We were travelling from the West Coast to Italy. You will be mentally exhausted. He went from walking quite a distance with a walker to being wheelchair bound in the space of about 1 month. Heaven knows you've earned it! Also look into CFAR (cancel for any reason) coverage, which is usually additional and can be quite expensive. 8 months from now? Last summer I moved my then 83 year old uncle from his home of many decades in the Midwest to California to live near me. I lost my Mom to the effects of Alzheimers in 2005. Still waiting for James to cite the medical advice he refers to. I don't have firsthand experience but, well, some of what I've read doesn't exactly inspire confidence, especially if traveling with a challenged, elderly parent. Traveling without it would be financially risky since evacuation costs can exceed $100,000. If your mom's current coverage does not, you can research alternatives now and consider switching, if only for next year. As far a base camp, how many do you want to stay in for the four weeks? A thought about the insurance situation raised by cognac: People have said here (I haven't verified) that some Medicare supplemental policies provide a degree of overseas coverage. To be honest, this is your son and his bride's center-of-attention occasion. That is perfectly reasonable. 617-638-9495, www.bso.org. I see Mom’s heart attack as divine deliverance from a very difficult road ahead. I frequently take trips about that length and it's tiring even for me, I really don't see myself doing that when I'm 80 - unless it really is to just stay in one place and do occasional day trips. Scroll down to "Traveling by train in Albania": It seems that bus travel is a more popular form of public transit in that country but as it appears you have a son living there, I'm sure he can provide the best firsthand advice on the subject! And expect to get some middle-of-the-night calls because she feels like chatting in the afternoon. It would be interesting to know what she decides in the end. Let her stay home and have a wonderful time. There are many obstacles and challenges and it's written with humor and heart. Michelle, best regards to you. All suggestions would be welcomed ;even blurt honest one. But i don’t think this is what Michelle wanted to hear. Why do you want to bring your mom on such a long trip? My mom had dementia. Overall, it was a miserable time for the entire family. Not sure it would have many practical tips, but it might provide some moral support. Thank you again for letting me clearly see my options. conditions under which they operate in but they did volunteer to advise us if medical intervention is warranted. She kept saying we had forgotten our luggage and had to go back and get it. Contributing to your question has served as a after-the-fact support group for many. I would urge caution. Before posting, please read our Community Guidelines. Best wishes on your son’s upcoming wedding next spring. She was still walking, climbing stairs, climbing in and out of my dad's truck, and she almost always recognized her family, her surroundings, etc. This piggybacks on LizzyL. But someone would have to be willing to stay 'home' with her on the days she didn't want to go anywhere. James, please point out the medical advice you are referring to. A long train or car trip coupled with a air BnB stay of several days in a new city. Michelle, one piece of information I'm curious about, and that would benefit other travelers with older parents, is which travel insurance plan you've found to cover your 80-year-old mom who has Alzheimer's disease. As someone above mentioned, her condition 8 months from now could be very different compared to what it is today. She did tend to put on the same clothes every day so I had to monitor that. American Public Television 55 Summer Street Boston, MA 02110 P: 617-338-4455 F: 617-338-5369 info@APTonline.org That said, I'll agree with the posters above that nearly 6 weeks of continual change (accommodations, transport, cities, food, surroundings in general) would be very hard on her, even for "slow" travel. He has published various guidebooks such as Europe 101: History and Art for Travelers, and Travel as a Political Act. My step-mother didn't feel up to the wedding after the flight and rehearsal dinner the night before. After that initial shock I was left touched by the depth of answers & experiences each of my comrades had. That night, in our hotel, she hardly slept, but kept getting in and out of bed. If the wedding is there I suspect you have all the support and information you need, but if not let me know if i can check something out for you. COGNAC & Acraven. cannot be taught unless experienced first handedly. The coronavirus situation for next May is unknown. Friend was in the medical field and her husband was a doctor. Police K-9 Named ‘Employee Of The Summer’ After Finding Missing Elderly Woman In Less Than 10 Minutes. Any change in his environment was very upsetting to him. For some reason, Rick Steves doesn't cover this area well in his guide books. Rick is known for his show called Travels in Europe which was aired in 1991, and later for his show Rick Steves’ Europe that aired in 2000. This forum has been most therapeutic for myself as well . Up until the move, she was still living at home and was quite active, though deteriorating noticeably. Employing an additional travel nurse is warranted & indispensable advice. It worked better as her dementia progressed because she was used to that arrangement. We stayed in Bologna for a month last summer and had a wonderful two bedroom, two bath apartment for me and my husband. Thank you for sharing your story. Thanks for looking up the Medigap information, Pam. We are open to any and all advise. So one house your mom can call home is best. Please support The Alzheimer’s Site by adding us to your ad blocker’s whitelist – ads help us to fund Alzheimer’s research and supplies. Being able to be fully present for it would be a lovely gift. Congratulations in advance for the 2021 Wedding. However, the possible enjoyment she may get from the trip has to be weighed against the impact on the rest of the party. I will most definitely write again in June so we can all know the final outcome . A few days later my husband went with me to visit, and she snapped out of it. On the flight over, as we were approaching landing in Italy, my Mom was mildly agitated. © 2000–2020 The Alzheimer’s Site and GreaterGood. with deep graditude, A sibling of mine has brain atrophy, which has symptoms very like Alzheimer's or dementia. The OP said all suggestions would be welcomed, even blunt honest ones. Anne is quite a mystery for us, because she leads a very private life. Rick Steves takes a walk with his girlfriend, Shelley Bryan Wee, and her two dogs, Gracie and Jackson, in downtown Edmonds. Them on trips would be a year from now cope with the local Skilled facility. Do not reply to violations of our community Guidelines that yet, but i certainly do n't see one of... 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